Among the topics that rushed to the meager hot search, there must be more than one person who pointed out that the Phoenix Fund was bragging.

Almost anyone who knows a little bit about chips understands how difficult it is to build a chip industry chain!

The chips discussed now are basically the default mobile phone CPU processing chips.Few people discuss the chips on the server side.Because mobile phones are now closely related electronic devices for everyone.

First of all, we must understand China's gap in the semiconductor industry.We have made progress, but the difference is not only CPU chips, but also ADC chips, baseband chips, etc.Even the most basic capacitors and resistors in electronic components, we have a gap.

Anyone who is engaged in the electronic component business in coastal areas probably knows that high-end electronic components must not be made in China.Its service life is not up to standard.In other words, inferior products.You have to use foreign goods.

Secondly, what is the most desperate thing in the field of chip manufacturing?It is our lack of tools for designing chips (EDA) and lack of machines for manufacturing chips (such as photolithography machines, etc.).As long as engineers involved in the chip industry, they will probably be aware that there are some key and necessary tools that are not available in China.

However, why do so many people point out the Phoenix Fund’s mistakes and brag, and only the comments of Renzhi are topped up?

This question is a bit subtle.Why no one commented on your circle of friends.And some people simply post a picture and repost and like it everywhere?It is worth thinking about!

Hua Shan finished handling the company's affairs, cooked omelettes, poured two cups of milk, took the tray, and walked barefoot to the beach.

She is 1.76 meters tall and wears a close-fitting champagne-colored strapless dress. She looks more fair and slender and slim.The face is charming and beautiful, very outstanding.

"What news are you watching? You are smiling so happy?" Hua Shan sat beside Ren Zhi, handing him the milk, and said, "I have consumed a lot these days, so I can make up for it."

Ren Zhi has a quieter temperament, but he can't help but retort: ​​"No matter how much you consume, you can satisfy your appetite."

He and Hua Shan, the great beauty, had done it during their vacation in Palm Beach, USA.He is a person who pursues perfection.And Hua Shan is not the beginning.He is very depressed about this.

Hua Shan was dissatisfied: "I went to the United States to study in high school. I was 23 years old. How could I have never met a good man. Why are you like a little boy who grew up? I am not your girlfriend. You have nothing. Right to interfere in my private affairs."

She was deeply influenced by neoliberal thoughts.

"Then what are we now?"

"I think you are excellent. Moreover, we have been getting along very well during this time. You want it, and I want it, just together. Do you want me to be your girlfriend? I don't necessarily agree. I have to investigate you."

He and Hua Shan are a little unhappy about having trouble in Palm Beach.But in the end it was reconciled and he took Hua Shan to continue to Brazil for vacation.Every day I sleep together, I will do what I need to do.

Hua Shan covered her mouth and smiled, leaning over to look at Ren Zhi who was half-lying in the beach chair, and whispered: "Don't brag."

Ren Zhi saw her ball and immediately "blooded on her head", hugging this independent and beautiful girl in his arms and kissing.

Ten minutes later, Ren Zhi and Hua Shan were lying in the spacious beach chairs happily, and the two of them hugged like glue, feeling that their hearts were sticking together.The taste of love is very sweet.This brings me to the topic just now.

Ren Zhi said complacently: "I can't see the Phoenix Fund's boasting appearance, and it won a round of applause by posting comments on the meager."

"Let me see."

Ren Zhi turned on the phone and watched with Hua Shan, "Oh, someone @."

In the presidential suite of the Atlantis Hotel, Jing Gao was on the sofa in the living room. He was very unhappy when he looked at the highly praised comment of "Let's Go 1911" as a reasonable guest.

First of all, the "announcement" given by the Phoenix Fund to Handong Provincial Taiwan must be bragging about in it.This is the convention.As a result, people are now picking them out one by one and rubbing them on the ground, picking thorns.

He was very upset.Does it mean that the comments on the Internet are emotional and scolding people without scruples? He knows.But this is the first time I have encountered such a thing.After all, he hasn't written online articles, just watching the authors get scolded.

Damn it, I don't talk about goals and feelings in the draft, should I talk about the details little by little?Why am I going to the provincial station?Do you see it?Isn't it good for me to open a post to talk to you in a well-known community?

Secondly, he dislikes this "lizhongke" tone very much.This is purely a methodological problem.

According to the materialist methodology, things need to be viewed dialectically.There is a good side and a bad side.But in the end, we have to give a general conclusion, whether it is good or bad.These so-called "reasoners" seem to be rational, neutral, and objective, but they actually magnify the bad side and draw a conclusion.

The most typical is the "China collapse theory."

There are even some low-level "lizhongke", just say: Don't because so and so is a professor, what he said is right.

What is the subtext of this sentence?You have to listen to my analysis!So, your analysis is better than other professors?Not necessarily?It is just taking advantage of the rebellious psychology of Internet readers towards "professor" and "authority".But some people like it.

Whether a matter is analyzed well or not, is it not judged on an individual basis?It depends on the specific analysis logic and deconstruction!

As a result, your methodology and logical structure are beyond the reach of Professor Shen.Still forced to say without embarrassment: "There are dozens of likes, I am very relieved. There are always some people who think independently, not everyone agrees."

Do you call nonsense "independent thinking"?

Jing Gao now dislikes this "Let's Go 1911".To recognize the gap between China's chip industry and the beautiful country.But what is your final conclusion?It's just that this can't be done!We have to ask the beautiful country to sell us the equipment.

You fucking lack of calcium!

I like kneeling so much.

Jing Gao directly replied in the meager mobile phone: "Why can't we make a lithography machine. You ate the lithography machine of Magic City Microelectronics."

Ren Woxing 1911: "I'm talking about high-end lithography machines. The most advanced lithography machine of Modu Microelectronics is only 90nm, and Asmer's lithography machine is now 7nm, 5nm."

Eating grapes without spitting out grape skins 233: "How many years has Asmer been doing lithography machines? How many years have been doing lithography machines in China? How can you conclude that after five or ten years we will not be able to produce high-end lithography machines? Yes. The gap, don't we still allow us to catch up?"

This is Jing Gao's number.He didn't authenticate a "Phoenix Fund Chairman" or something on Weibo.

Let me do 1911: "Hehe, that's funny. Do you know how many parts the lithography machine has? Fifty thousand! Go and tackle the problem yourself! How long will it take? Asmael's technology will stay in place and not improve ?

Now is the era of globalization, the division of labor in the global industrial chain.Every country and every company has its own unique skills to make profits.

The modern chip industry has a mature industrial chain, which is monopolized by several companies.Phoenix Fund, as a newbie to Sanwu, how much time does he plan to spend to catch up with the market-based system established by others in 20 or 30 years?"

Eating grapes without spitting out grape skins 233: "Phoenix Fund has said that we are not afraid of losses. Do our best."

Let me do 1911: "Brother, are you here to make fun? This is a technical field, and you have to talk about the laws of physics. You can't solve it with nothing but a vernacular here. Is this a loss? Others have the first mover advantage. , Just can't catch up.

Let me give you an example.Do you know the talent gap in our country on integrated circuits?The most preliminary estimate is 200,000 people.

The chip industry chain has to go through more than 40 links from tool and IP selection to different module design, manufacturing, packaging and testing.This involves materials, physics, chemistry, mechanics, optics, computers, radio, software and other disciplines.

In 2009, my country only approved 20 universities such as Beijing University of Technology as integrated circuit talent training base construction units.So far, integrated circuits are still under the discipline of electronic science and technology.Not a first-level subject.

Calculate for yourself, how many years will we have to train to fill this gap.Think about it for yourself, to what extent will human technology innovate in the past ten or twenty years?

In summary, do you think we can catch up?The Phoenix Fund is obviously bragging.What do you follow?"

Jing Gao was full of energy, and his two fingers entered like flying.Eating grapes without spitting out grape skins 233: "I admit the gap, but I never think that we should give up catching up. Moreover, there is an obvious loophole in your argument. Asmael's technology will continue to improve.

He has reached 5nm, how far can its cutting-edge technology improve?1nm?According to the information I have read, Moore's Law is no longer valid in this field.This is originally an artificial law, not an objective law like physics.

And, according to your argument, will the country with the first mover advantage stay ahead?Not necessarily!History clearly tells us that during the second industrial revolution, Germany's industrial output value caught up with Britain.

The most typical example is who planted mushroom eggs first.So which one has the best technology for cleaning bombs to maintain combat readiness?It seems to belong to the rabbit.

Therefore, if there is no such thing as what you said, the first mover country will always have the advantage.You judge the outlook to be pessimistic.I think it is bright.

Because, after all, technical problems still need people to solve.In the final analysis, this is still a human problem.And the ingenuity of the Chinese is not lost to anyone!We have proved it in history, and we will continue to prove it!"

Let me go 1911: "Speechless. I discuss technical issues with you, and you discuss human issues with me. What? But if you say that, just bring my IQ to the same level as you, and then use your rich experience to defeat me?

Do you think that the chip industry can do just one lithography machine?Let me tell you, there are so many places behind..."

Jing Gao looked at the reply of "Let me go 1911" and felt that there was no need to pull it down.Because this person has a very obvious defect: technical problems belong to technical problems.

You tugged a few hands.

In the past, Japan's semiconductor technology slammed the beautiful country. In the end, how did the company kill its semiconductor companies?Was it defeated by technology?Do you want to be so naive?

When it comes to technical issues involving national security, strategy, and interests, this has never been a purely technical issue.Of course, in terms of lithography machine technology, it does not mean that the florist is going to engage in Asmael's technology.

His point is very clear. The top lithography machine technology is stagnating, and now is a good time to catch up.As for how difficult can it be to emphasize the difficulties in manufacturing chips?Harder than two bombs and one star?Is it harder than China to complete industrialization?Harder than building an aircraft carrier?

Who are you scaring?

Facing the sea, winter season.Jing Gao remembered the chairman's teaching: let them say, we can't do this, that's not good either!The indomitable efforts of the Chinese people will surely achieve their goals steadily!

Jing Gao called Guan Guan.

He wants to build a lithography machine.

He doesn't believe in that evil.