Waiting for us back at the Grand Training Ground were the Knights in Bishi formation and the staff in the Healers Guild.

And at the beginning, the figure of the masters and the Battle Maiden Saint Knights were detaining and seating the demonized knights, beginning with Donghahahahaha, who made this noise.

Apparently, the fanaticized knights regained consciousness, and were similarly restrained and seated.

The knights have a sudden look of surprise that I have really brought the Pope to the Great Training Ground, but I keep my gaze quietly focused on the Pope and me.

"Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for waiting. I now invite the Pope to come forward with a shakedown of this commotion. Now, Pope, please."

When the Pope came out in front of me, he started talking straight to him as he stopped in front of Donghahahahahahahaha with a grim look on his face.

"Dongahaha, has the church become an abomination for that?

"... No Pope, now and always, this Church is like home to me. And the people here are like family."

He was a dongahaha who suddenly spoke and looked surprised for a moment, but when he recovered immediately, he replied slowly and with a slight grin to the words asked by the Pope.

The sudden action of the Pope was conditional on the Pope, who wished to speak with Dongahaha, to judge before everyone.

"Before we judge in front of everyone, I'd like to have a moment to talk to Dongahaha..."

"You may do everything the Pope wants you to do"

It was a small barter, but I decided to leave everything to the Pope, who kept his voice down on his butt.

... Nevertheless, Dongahaha's face, who has referred to the church as home, church officials as family, is very calm and doesn't look like he's lying.

I very much didn't think this was the one who was trying to destroy the church until a while ago.

"... so is the concubine. But then why did you spread Luciel's rumors and use the evil laws to break the Demons into the Church?

Even though the Pope smiled and nodded in agreement with Dongahaha's words, he immediately clouded his face and asked why it had caused a series of incidents.

"I am very sorry for what I did to Luciel the Wise, but knowing the fact that Holy Attribute Magic is no longer available, I was worried about the future of the Church. That's why."

"Surely if Luciel could no longer use the sacred attribute magic, his influence inside and outside the Church would not be insignificant. But even if that happens, we can all work together to get over it."

"I can't! Inside this church is already rotten. That's why I tried to destroy everything before it got any more rotten."

When Dongahaha looked at this one and said his words of apology, he turned again to the Pope and told him that he clearly intended to destroy the Church.

But I couldn't hide my surprise that he, the head of the executive branch, told me the church was rotten.

I thought the executive branch moving the church back was corrupting the church, but the way he put it, it sounded like it was corrupted by something other than the executive branch.

The Church's reputation and authority should have flourished these days, and I didn't think there were any factors that would make him rot, so I didn't know why he said that.

"What do you mean, I heard the church's authority gradually came back?"

The Pope seemed to have the same question and asked Dongahaha again.

"The Church's reputation hasn't changed that much. The fame of Luciel the Wise has grown, and with the guidelines Luciel the Wise has made, the healers are no longer hated by the people."

The word was a shock to me.

It was for my own good that I had worked hard, but not least because I intended to work hard with all of the Church.

That's my only popularity and fame... and everyone else is doing their part, so you understand that I'm never alone.

"The healers' ratings are up, so the church's ratings are up, too, right?

The Pope asked me exactly what I wanted to hear.

But the response from him was different from what I imagined.

"No. Only the Maiden of War Saints is rated higher among the knights. Other than that, the ratings for the knights may have improved somewhat, but it's no big difference. And the heavy towns that have been at the helm of the church have been treated as incompetent."

"Why not?

The Pope asks Dongahaha for a more detailed explanation.

"The fact that we have not provided guidance to the healers over the past few decades. That we have increased the number of bad healers and let them go wild. And that I didn't break the Knights more than I had to when there were more demons. It must be due to these grievances."

"It's..."

"That's right. Because the labyrinth has been made inside the church. But it has nothing to do with people who don't know about it."

"So Luciel was becoming an S-class healer and the church was gradually regaining trust from the people?

"Yeah, you're right. It is no substitute that the church or healer would have been the object of malice without him. But it wasn't until he became a drama drug..."

Since becoming an S-class healer, I don't remember acting annoyingly to the church, so I listen to what Dongahaha has to say.

"... Luciel did something?

"I thought you said that when you made the guidelines. Luciel the Sage said it could be a drama drug..."

Dongahaha meditated his eyes, shaking his neck to the side, confining himself to answering in the abstract.

"Then your lord would have been involved in making guidelines and bills"

"Yeah. But you shouldn't have let Luciel, the wise man, do more than that, or wanted. But I guess he was a heroic enough figure. As soon as I got out of church, I killed a dragon during a labyrinth step, and I did two big jobs with Yenis Ping."

It's very strange because it's completely involved, but from the edge, it does.

But when you worked hard to live, why couldn't that be?

"Indeed, Luciel achieved merit. But that's why it's an outrage that Luciel is incompetent."

"Yeah. But it's the people who don't know the inside of the church who judge. Prominent accomplishments make what's around you seem like a blessing."

Listening to that, I was remembering the words of my boss, who was the top sales (sales) man of my previous life.

"What does that mean?

"There are a large number of those here who are unhappy that all the wise Luciel will be appreciated. It's weirder for them to be evaluated because there's no drilling in the church in the first place and there's no change in behavior... but it's their routine to line up all their stupidity and dissatisfaction and pull each other's legs. This can be said of healers and knights alike."

"It is the role of the ruler…"

"I'm in charge of the executive branch, I'm in charge of the Knights, I'm in charge of the Knights of Katrine, and I'm in charge of the Demons."

Dongahaha was acting to crush the church with ethnic supremacy.

Mr. Katrine is already caught by the executive branch without being able to take command of the Knights.

Mr. Granhardt sent my cauldron into the labyrinth and, unable to stop their rampage, let the evil gods kill him.

Dongahaha is the only one who can lead by brilliant.

So if you're really pulling your legs together, it's rotten but fulfilling...

"How long have you been working on this plan?

"It was three months before Luciel the Wise lost his magic. Well, since the Demons showed up about six months ago, I've been getting ready for a lot of things..."

The Pope looks stunned and incredible and hardens with his mouth half-opened.

"... assuming Luciel couldn't use magic, how could he have been?

"I would have executed him to get him to be the foundation of the Church as he was, if he had not been there to help," he said.

The Pope changed the subject a little, but what he waited for was an abnormal word.

Even though I was prepared for that, when I heard you had exactly that kind of plan, I was a little overwhelmed.

I was wondering where Donghahahahahaha told the facts pale and that there was no sign or gesture of hitting the Pope with resentment or taking any action.

"... Is this still because of the concubine?

"Come on. You've always liked to blame yourself. You won't survive a battle with the Demons."

"The Demon Clan!?

"... um, you've been talking a little too much. Is it time for you to judge me? It would be if you could judge me. Kahaha."

Dongahaha laughed high and looked up at the Pope.