Mediterranean Hegemon of Ancient Greece

649 Interview with Plato

Plato smiled for a moment, and immediately smiled: "Lucias, I'm glad to see you again! You're fat, I almost didn't recognize it."

Indeed, at this time, Lucias had a superior life and a successful career. It was no longer the shabby appearance of writing a defense and earning money in Athens.He patted the obviously protruding belly covered by the gorgeous Bolton, seeming helpless, but secretly sighed: "The older you are, the longer the meat, the more you can’t lose it, There is really no way."

Plato smiled and replied: "Because it is your experience and knowledge that grows with age!"

After being praised by Plato, Lucias smiled and pointed to the person next to him, and said enthusiastically: "Introduce you, this is the veteran of Dionysia, the main organizer of this "All Greek Scholars Conference"- —Angitalos."

"Is it Anistanos who wrote "History of Great Greece"?" Plato asked with a surprised look.

""History of Great Greece" was written by me, but it was barely readable." Ansitanos said modestly: "Unlike Plato, the "Ideal Country" you wrote shocked scholars all over Greece, even our King Davers also praised your book, saying that it is a political book, and praised you as a great Plato!"

Plato’s praise made Plato a little embarrassed. He said frankly: “This book was written by me after 12 years of traveling in the Mediterranean, using observation and thinking, and there are still many defects and ills. , Is constantly improving..."

In fact, this book has caused a lot of controversy and criticism in Athens, because Plato criticized the ills of the democratic system in the book.

Plato turned to praise again: "It's the "History of Great Greece" written by Master Ansitanos. The text is plain, the text is rigorous, the time is the vertical line, and the events in the big Greek city-states at the same time are the horizontal lines. Having described the history of Great Greece for hundreds of years clearly, I feel that it is no less than Thucydides’ History of the Peloponnesian War, and it also allows our people in Greece to have a good understanding of the Greek colonies in For hundreds of years of hard history in southern Italy, I have properly collected three books in the bookstore of my school..."

"Don't praise the two of you first, we have to leave here quickly. Don't forget Ansitanos, King Daveus is still waiting to meet Plato!" Lucias urged.

"Your king wants to see me?" Plato was surprised.

"Did I not say that just now, King Davos highly esteems you, the reason why I want to see you now is because the conference has not started yet, it will not be too eye-catching." Ansitanos explained.

When Plato thought about it, he understood it and smiled: "Great, I just want to see the magical king who created the miracle of Dionysia!"

Compared with the two scholars who came before, there are more spectators who recognize Plato, not because he is more famous at this time, but because he has completed the tour of major Mediterranean countries and city-states. Hippocrates and Democritus have entered their old age and rarely travel far.

For example, Agrigento businessman Yuropez had met Plato while traveling in Sicily, when he was in business in Syracuse and Leotini, respectively.At this moment, he looked at Plato's distant back and imagination: the famous Greek doctor-Hippocrates, the omniscience scholar-the student of Democritus, the famous scholar in Athens-Plato.In just half a day, Dionysia invited three well-known universities in the Greek world. The all-Greece scholars conference held by Dionysia must be a gathering of scholars, which may be quite attractive.Does Turiri want to replace Athens and become the academic center of the Greek world?!

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For this great philosopher and thinker whom the Westerners called the "father of philosophy" in the previous life, when Westerners talked about political and philosophical research, they even had a consensus that "Plato is philosophy, philosophy is Plato", so Dai Firth had longed to see.

And Plato also hopes to see this young king who will allow a small city-state to rise quickly to become the most powerful Greek force in the Western Mediterranean, and to ask face-to-face the political mystery of “making the country strong and fast”, believing in improving his politics Philosophical theory is very helpful.

Both of them held an urgent wish, so they met in the King's Office of the Palace of Dionysia.

Plato is not tall and has a strong body, which is very different from the traditional and talented Chinese literati Qingxiu Junya, and Dafs, as a young king who created a powerful Dionysian kingdom, also speaks of "handsome" It doesn't touch the big edge.

But neither of them are ordinary people, and they will not look at each other with the vulgar attitude of "taking people by appearance". After looking at each other, Plato first said: "Dear Majesty Dave, I came here from the port. On the way, I found that there was a big difference between the citizens of Dionysia and the citizens of other Greek city-states—"He paused and saw Daveus showing a curious look, and then said: "None of you have a beard, is this intentional? "

Daveus did not expect that Plato would ask such a question when he opened his mouth. He subconsciously touched his smooth chin and smiled and said, "This is because the people of Dionysia have realized that they have long beards in these years of life. It’s not a good thing. In our battle with the enemy, our civic soldiers found that the beard was too long and could be easily dragged by the opponent, causing injuries and even losing lives; and the doctors of Dionysia Medical School found that the beard was too much It’s too long. If you don’t clean it frequently, it will breed small things that we can’t see, which will make us suffer from diseases. However, frequent cleaning will consume a lot of energy and time. It’s better to scrape it completely.”

Listening to Daphes's words, Plato subconsciously stroked his bushy beard and pondered: "So, do the Dionyans advocate practicality? For this reason, they don't even want to follow the ancient Greek tradition?"

Daveus smiled and said seriously: "Our Greeks' understanding of the environment and nature gradually became clearer and richer with the passage of time. Scholars in ancient times are certainly unable to compare with us now, so they are many The views and understandings are simple, even wrong... So of course the good Greek tradition, we must inherit; but the bad tradition, why do we keep it! Just like other city-states lock women at home, and We, Dionia, have given more freedom and equal education to women in the Kingdom. Didn’t you also call for the equality of men and women in city-states in the "Ideal Country"?..."

Daveus's words made Plato think while listening, but he didn't respond directly, but asked: "Since your majesty you said you want to inherit the good Greek tradition and abandon the bad, then you become a king, and you will be Daioni As the Asian League becomes a kingdom, does it think that the royal system is superior to other regimes?"

Davis also did not directly answer his questions, but looked at him and said seriously: "I have seen your "Ideal Country", and you think that "only philosophers are the best rulers of the city-state" , I don’t agree. Even letting philosophers in power will only make the city-state worse!"

When Plato heard this, he opened his eyes, and then quickly returned to calm. He increased his tone and asked, "Why does His Majesty think so?"

Daveus said unhurriedly: "We Greeks call philosophy "the study of love and wisdom", which is a profound knowledge that explores the evolution of all things, society, and the world... everything can be called a philosopher. The person must dedicate all his energy to it, in order to gain his insightful insight into the world. This is not an easy task, so where does he have extra time to govern the country?! Look at me— —”

Daphes pointed to the mountain of letters, proposals, materials... on his desk, sighed, and said, "This is the kingdom business I have to deal with in a day. In addition, I have to recruit officials to discuss and participate. Discussing the proposals of the Senate......On this day, I have almost no spare time. Even meeting with you, I have to plan well in advance, only to spare half an hour of free time, and this will lead to today I have to go home later in the evening, otherwise some resolutions cannot be approved in time, and can only be pushed to tomorrow, which not only means a reduction in administrative efficiency, but also may mean that the lives of people in a city or a region of the Kingdom are greatly affected... …

You see, if he wants to be a king, he has no time to study philosophy, and can only devote most of his energy to complicated city-state affairs.The same is true of the chief executives of various cities in my kingdom. Their power is equivalent to the rulers of other city-states. They must work diligently and down-to-earth to solve the practical problems of their cities. If anyone spends their energy on learning, they will not do it. If you don’t want to replace him, the local councillors and civil protection officers will protest against him..."

"Your Majesty, your diligence amazes me!" Plato first praised, and then calmly said: "Since your Majesty you have said, philosophy is the knowledge of loving wisdom, then wisdom is not just sitting there dreaming He has to rely on refining from practice. When you encounter difficulties in government affairs, think hard, discover the rules, and finally find a solution, and even refine this method into a system. By extension, is this not the result of the use of philosophy!..."

"It seems that each of my chief executives in the kingdom and I are philosophers. This philosopher is too easy to be a philosopher." Davers retorted gently.