Super military empire

Chapter 541: Eight F-8IIs Replaced With Two F14s

Shen Fei could not refuse such a huge amount of research funding.

For Chinese military enterprises, they can now have two to three billion yuan in funding, and they can all go sideways like a crab.

The country has no money, and many military projects in the 1970s have been abolished because of funding problems.Shen Fei's J-8ii fighter was also a project in the 1970s. Up to now, it has not made much progress.

Mainly because of avionics and not other.

Electronic systems are the shortcomings of the entire Chinese military industry.Avionics systems and fire control radars even limit fighter jets, which are very demanding military equipment.The J-8A fighter had already made its first flight a long time ago, and it has always been unable to be deployed on a large scale because of its electronic systems.

This type of fighter was originally an interceptor used to intercept Lao Maozi’s MiG-25 and Tu-22 counterfire medium-range strategic bombers.As a result, it did not meet the requirements of the superiors at all.The J-8A is only able to take off during the day, not an all-weather fighter.For Tu-22, which can reach a penetration speed of Mach 3 with the afterburner open, there is simply not much defensive capability.This kind of fighter, in any case, is still in the second-generation category.

Compared to f14 in the United States, it is far worse.

"Since I can't refuse, then why not try it out as Director Liu intended? Even if it fails in the end, the Ninth Academy will pay for it..." Huang Qiaosong tempted the big men of the Shen Fei Group who could not refuse.

"Lao Huang, it's not wrong to say that. If we cannot provide the fighters they need in the end, and the technical performance indicators cannot be completed, causing problems in the contract between the Ninth Academy and Iran, who will bear the responsibility?" wrong.

The problem is that something has happened, and Shenfei Group cannot afford such a responsibility.

This is a big bet.

"That's Director Liu's business. When signing the Long Weiyi contract, Director Liu said that 180 vehicles will be provided before the end of the year, but in the end it will only be able to provide 100 vehicles. What about the Iranians? Because of the 180 vehicles contract, that is Verbal agreement. Although Director Liu is very young, many people think that his work experience is not enough. Actually?" Huang Qiaosong shrugged and said indifferently.

"That's OK, we took this order, if Iran orders..."

Gu Songfen also knew that once the Ninth Academy abandoned their project and turned to seek an improved version of the J-7, even the 132 aircraft factory in Rongcheng would be able to complete the task.

Shen Fei could not miss this opportunity, and the 601 Institute could not miss this opportunity either.

As Huang Qiaosong said, Shen Fei could not refuse 300 million research funding.

"Iran ordering is a matter of signing a contract with Director Liu. I think you are also aware that Iranians will never buy it. Director Liu will discuss how much the fighter will sell. The main task of Shen Fei is to study carefully. Just follow the time given by Director Liu to carry out the experiment." Huang Qiaosong knew that Liu Yijiu could fool the Iranians.

Also know that the Iranians will not regard Shen Fei as a thing.

They negotiated with the Chinese side about weapons purchases even though the Ninth Academy did not have weapons and equipment.There was no need for Shen Fei Group to worry about these things at all, so I unceremoniously interrupted Gu Songfen's general design of the J-8ii.

Things have reached such an extent, and Shen Fei can't refuse such generous terms and treatments, so Liu Yijiu's goal has been achieved.

When negotiating with Iranians, there was some confidence.

"Liu, you should be very clear. The Pahlavi dynasty purchased an F14 at a price of 80 million U.S. dollars. Now, your second-generation fighters are only priced at 10 million U.S. dollars. You actually want to spend 20 million in exchange for 8,000 Do you think it is the most advanced fighter jet in the world with ten thousand dollars?” Iranians look down on the second-generation fighter, even if it is infinitely close to the third-generation fighter.

Iran’s military design and production capacity is not very strong, so they need to purchase from abroad.

Even if they purchase the most advanced weapons and equipment, they cannot be imitated. Not to mention the imperfection of various basic equipment, the key is that they cannot even understand many technologies.

China is not comparable to a small country like Iran, which has a huge population, and similarly, it also has complete industrial facilities.

It is not appropriate to exchange two f14 for four pandas anyway.

The Chinese have pushed down prices too much.

"Mr. Minister, I think you have forgotten our obligations after getting this kind of fighter. If you have no opinion and no request, then I think we can pay the price of 80 million yuan. But we will not guarantee it. Providing spare parts within three years will not guarantee that imitation fighters will be provided within five years. Even in terms of price, we will calculate the price according to our production cost and production efficiency..." Liu Yijiu knew that the other party would Excessive prices.

Said lightly.

Let alone an 80 million U.S. dollar aircraft, even a 100 million U.S. dollar or even 200 million U.S. dollar aircraft should be delivered.

The problem is that the Ninth Hospital does not have that much money.

The price of the J-8 of the second-generation fighter aircraft is already very high at 10 million U.S. dollars. Liu Yijiu wants to sell for 20 million U.S. dollars or more. No one is a fool, isn’t he?

So, save as much as you can.

"Your fighters, even if they are new fighters, cannot achieve this value. Director Liu, we sincerely want to talk to you about this cooperation, not just for fun." Kannon also frowned at him. Liu Yijiu said.

Liu Yijiu's price cut is too much.

Liu Yijiu was noncommittal.

"We are also very sincere. If it's just the J-8A fighter, five million one, how much do you want, how much we provide. For the new fighter, we have installed the same type of pulse used by the American F14. Doppler radar. Minister Samnila should be aware of this, right?" Liu Yijiu emphasized the fact of pulse Doppler radar.

This radar itself is not cheap, and it also carries a computerized fire control system.

"Liu, at least, you need to provide at least 16 J-8ii aircraft in order to be equivalent to two f14 in value. American technology, you want to obtain more urgently than us. If it is an American, even 500 million. U.S. dollars, you can’t get this kind of airplane either."

"If you are Americans, you are also paying a price of 500 million U.S. dollars, and they will not continue to provide you with related supporting parts and new fighters. If it can be reached, the 160 f-16 fighters ordered by King Pahlavi, They will deliver it to you, and not until now, even if you have the American hostages in your hands, the negotiation will not make any progress..." Liu Yijiu said with a sneer.

Both Samnila and Cannon were sullen and silent.

"To be honest, both of you, the price you proposed is not too high. Compared with the technology contained in f14, it is not high at all. You know the situation in China. After all, we are here. , There is not too much funding. The Chinese government will not participate in this. I shouldn’t say why. And all the money needs to be borne by the Ninth Institute. The Longwei 1 tank was originally priced at 200 A half-million-dollar car, because of the intervention of the Pakistanis, we sold it to you at a cost of 2 million..." Seeing that the contract was not agreed, Liu Yijiu simply changed the subject.

"Now, everyone with a discerning view of the war between you and Iraq is very clear. Without the tanks we provided, none of the various types of tanks owned by the Iranian military would be an opponent of the T72. Even if you own the f14, it can be effective. What about the MiG-25 fighter intercepting the Iraqis? The Iraqis have financial support from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other countries, and weapons and equipment support from the Soviet Union, the United States, and the entire Western countries. What does Iran have? There is one less aircraft, and the Iraqi air force equipment can still be replenished continuously through procurement, and can even be strengthened through procurement..." Liu Yijiu said that the Iranians had to think about this matter seriously.

Although the Iran-Iraq War was provoked by Iraq, no Western country supported a car, and they all issued some advice without pain.

Iran's oil exports were sanctioned because of the hostage incident in Tehran, and the source of foreign exchange plummeted.

Channels to obtain sources of weapons and equipment have also become scarce due to American sanctions. Even if the British and French are willing to export to them, they are asking for wild prices. This point raised by Liu Yijiu at this time is very important for Iran. It's fair.

"Director Liu, if you calculate according to your cost, what is the approximate price of the f14 imitations that you finally provided to us?" Samnila did not speak, and Canon took a deep breath and asked Liu Yijiu.

"No more than 50 million US dollars!" Liu Yijiu said lightly, "If we use similar engines in our country, if the production quantity is sufficient, the cost will not even exceed 40 million US dollars per aircraft!" Liu Yijiu's offer , It is very exciting for Iranians.

"10 J-8ii, so that we can also have an explanation to the country." After some discussions, Samnila said to Liu Yijiu.

The Chinese used the f14 they provided for research and imitation work, and they provided tens of millions of dollars in funding.

"Six frames!" Liu Yijiu shook his head."If we feel that we can afford it, we can now verify the contract. In addition, we can supply unlimited amounts of the weapons and equipment you purchased from our country. In time our country responds to the call of the United States, we will also find ways to provide you with sufficient quantities. Weaponry."

"Eight. Director Liu, this is our bottom line! Even if you have twenty second-generation fighters, you won’t be able to win the two f14s!" Although I didn’t believe this, Samnila still couldn’t. Don't say it.

This may have a bearing on the interests of their country.

Eight more J-8s will prevent the Iranian Air Force from being absent from work due to damage to the Panda F14 parts.

Other fighters, compared with Soviet-style equipment, are far behind.

"Deal!" Although the price of eight F-8iis was less than 60 million U.S. dollars, and even the purchase price of one f14 was not enough, Liu Yijiu was still heartbroken.

In his view, this is a kind act to help Iranians. Iranians should cry and kneel and beg the Chinese to help them study the technology of f14, and finally realize this advanced fighter plane domestically.

It now appears that the Iranians have no idea of ​​self-production.

In Iran as a whole, the industrial base is not perfect, and even if they are given the technology, they cannot be manufactured.

Thinking of this, Liu Yijiu was relieved.

"Director Liu, our tank..." Samnila raised the issue of Long Weiyi's delivery again.

"We will work uninterrupted 24 hours a day, and strive to deliver 70 more vehicles to you by the end of the year. If you exceed it, we will not do anything. We are also powerless. However, I suggest that only a part of these tanks needs to be equipped with new models. The air defense missile module will do..." Liu Yijiu always thinks that 150,000 US dollars is a little cheap for that kind of missile.

But thinking about the missile's face test has not been done, and the range is less than 10 kilometers, it is relieved.

The American and European air defense missiles are more expensive because of their high cost and reputation.

Sooner or later, the price of China's air defense missiles will have to be increased.

"What if we want to be able to change this kind of missile into an air-to-air missile? And be able to install the f14 to match the weapon system of the American fighter, how much time and cost?" Samnila finally asked this question.

Now Iran, the country is still in chaos, and Khomeini has not effectively controlled the entire country. Therefore, the ability of Iranians to refresh the phone is not too bad.

"If the f14 can be put in place as soon as possible, I think this improvement can be completed in at most six months. Moreover, the cost will not be too high, and the cost of a missile will not exceed 200,000 US dollars." Liu Yijiu thought for a while. Iran is their first big customer in the true sense, and there is no need to bully too much.

It is best to use Iran to form a good word-of-mouth effect for China’s military products. Lower prices and lower profits are not a problem.

"Well, I think we can draw up a contract. I hope that at least 20 of the tanks to be provided will be equipped with air defense modules. After the contract is signed, the 12 million US dollars of funding will be soon Arrive in your country."

"As long as the money is in place, I think we can meet your needs years ago. Air-to-air missiles will be slower, but air-defense missiles are not a problem!" Liu Yijiu nodded.

Twelve million dollars is really not much.

But this is a good start.