Super military empire

(Greatly added 19/20 for @driden)

When they were about to give up, they went back to study the Boeing 707 tanker and prepared to imitate them, the Ninth Academy proposed to combine 708 large civil aviation aircraft with 603 military transport aircraft, and all the forces of Qin Fei. It is a two-hundred-ton multi-purpose transport aircraft with technical specifications like the original Yun-9.

If the research is successful, it will be relatively easy to transform whether it is a civil aviation airliner, military transport aircraft, aerial tanker, etc.

In the 200-ton class, the carrying capacity must be at least 40 tons.

"Everyone knows the performance indicators. I personally think that the shape can refer to the Soviet Il-76 military transport aircraft, but in this regard, we need to have our own design ideas. We will conduct technical demonstrations in advance and list the required technologies one by one. Let’s list out, whether it’s materials, electronics, or the various foundations that are lacking in manufacturing, we will reverse the problem one by one!" The people from the three units finally sat together and discussed the development of the 200-ton large aircraft. problem.

Liu Yijiu remembers very clearly the technical performance and various detailed designs of the Yun-20 project studied in China after entering the 21st century, but he did not directly show it here.

Ma Fengshan, Cheng Bushi and others from the 708 Institute began to carry out a new generation of research after the completion of the Yunshi development work. They have already had preliminary ideas, but these ideas have not turned into blueprints. In the process of program demonstration, several After the unit discussion, Liu Yijiu will put forward some opinions at the right time, so that Yun Twenty can appear in the Republic decades earlier.

"Director Liu, although it is easier to say, whether it is design capability or manufacturing capability, our technical foundations are much worse..." Other countries are studying more when the industrial base reaches a level. Advanced weapons and equipment.

The Republic is not good, the foundation is too bad.

Liu Yijiu directly proposed that good steel should be used on the blade, the design plan was first taken out, the technical demonstration, what kind of industrial foundation is needed, and then the relevant technology research and development.

This is also no alternative.

"You don't need to calculate these calculations. We will provide you with technical upgrades. Of course, you need to solve these financial problems yourself. Only the preliminary technical demonstrations require a lot of funds..." Liu Yijiu did not argue about anything, but Tell them that if they want to continue the cooperation, they must upgrade the supporting facilities themselves. The Ninth Academy can provide them with upgraded technical equipment, but will not provide funds.

"The biggest problem is the big press. We don't have a forging machine with a capacity of 45,000 tons. To reach a cruising speed of more than 800 kilometers per hour, and the overall maximum take-off weight reaches 220, this puts forward a higher structural strength for the entire aircraft. Requirements..." Qin Fei has been researching all the time, and he has a certain understanding of the required strength of the body structure or the aerodynamic layout."Especially engines with large bypass ratio..."

Tens of thousands of tons of free forging machinery is the shortcoming of the Republic, and that is also the cutting-edge power of machinery manufacturing in the entire country.

The largest domestic hydraulic press is in Shanghai Machinery Factory, and even the main beams of large aircrafts like Yun-10 are very reluctant.

Apart from other things, casting technology alone is very troublesome.

"On the Erzhong side, we have cooperated with us to start a large forging press of 60,000 tons a few years ago. It should be completed in a short time, so this is not a problem..." Liu Yijiu said about the situation of the large press. Very caring, Erzhong has always had the funds and technical support of the Ninth Academy, especially in terms of automatic control.

His words surprised others. They didn't expect that such a device would also be made in China, but he hadn't heard any news before.

After repeated confirmations, Liu Yijiu assured them with certainty that the production of the 60,000-ton press has already begun, just for the production of Yunshi, and other talents can rest assured.

"As for the engine, this is not a problem. Our turbofan-8 can reach such a thrust..." Huang Qiaosong continued Liu Yijiu's words.

"What about the materials?" In this case, what else can you do?

There are so many good things in the Ninth Institute, it seems that they don't cooperate with each other, and there is no plan to bring them out?

"Material is a problem, but we have a lot of new materials, and they can only be solved when they are encountered in the design process..." Rao Liu Yijiu, there is absolutely no guarantee that the materials will be fully available.

Materials are just a broad category. Various parts and components, even if they are only used for different purposes, require several materials with subtle differences.

Not only China, but even technologically advanced countries like the United States and the Soviet Union dare not boast about materials and say that this is not a problem.

"Director Liu, how do we cooperate in the research and development of the three parties? Should we carry out project division or joint development, and each project will have relevant personnel and technology?" This is the point that 603 is most concerned about.

Don't cooperate with the Ninth Institute for a while, they are reduced to a supporting unit of the Ninth Institute after getting a big plane.

As the first batch of national defense science and technology talents in the Republic, Niu Jing can afford to let go. Liu Yijiu promised not to dig their talents. He publicly apologized to Liu Yijiu.

Now when the interests of several units were involved, he once again raised this question that Qin Fei also wanted to raise based on the principle of 603 consideration.

"My personal meaning is that we cooperate in all projects so that we can conduct comprehensive technical exchanges. Of course, some of our technologies will not hide privates, so I hope that everyone will not hide privates in technology. Only we can make progress together. It is the progress of our entire defense industry..." Liu Yijiu didn't think there was anything wrong with Niu Jing's question.

He did not intend to use other units, but sincerely hoped that everyone can make progress together.

Only when the overall progress is made, will the country's defense technology advance.

"Before, due to capital problems, management system reasons, and efficiency, we did it by ourselves, not cooperation. But now, we find that it is impossible for any unit to complete all the work. In terms of this, I hope that everyone will also realize this problem and don't just look at the interests of their own units. Making progress together and achieving a win-win situation is our goal." Liu Yijiu said this very sincerely.

Niu Jing, Sun Daogan and others were very embarrassed by what he said.

"Of course, in the course of this cooperation, I hope that our 708 will still be in charge, and you two will assist." At this point, Liu Yijiu looked at the people from the other two units and saw both parties. There was no response, waiting for him to continue.

He picked up the tea cup on the table in front of him and took a sip to hide his inner surprise.

"After all, Mr. Ma has more experience in the research of large jet aircraft. What's more important is that our ninth academy’s project review is not as complicated as that of the country. We are not afraid of wasting money. As long as we can buy experience with money, we can We grow, it’s all worth it...The reason why our R&D is fast is because all our projects are piled up with money..." Liu Yijiu's words immediately received warm applause. .

The problem facing their various units is lack of money.

The technologies are all developed, but without too much funding, it is impossible to pile up the technologies with money.

"Director Liu, if our technology cannot make a breakthrough, can we consider introducing some related technologies from abroad?" The introduction of technology from abroad is very popular in China this year.

Before Liu Yijiu answered, Huang Qiaosong said with contempt, "Within the scope of the Ninth Institute, no technology will be considered from abroad..."

His words made Liu Yijiu's face burn.

But nothing said.

"The technologies we lack are all high-precision and cutting-edge technologies that foreign countries have monopolized on us, so everyone still cut off the idea of ​​importing from abroad. Fortunately, we have the most critical engine. If it hadn't been for the Ninth Institute to take over the turbofan-6 The project, our transport ten, is basically over. Westerners, represented by the Americans, prefer to export aircraft to us instead of letting us have manufacturing capabilities..." Ma Fengshan warned everyone not to be lucky.

He also knows that these people think that with a large amount of money in the hands of the Ninth Institute, it is entirely possible to import some complicated technologies from abroad.

Rao is now in the honeymoon period, and the West’s blockade of China’s top technologies is still very serious.

What can be obtained is also backward.

"Independent innovation is what we should do. In the early days of the founding of the People's Republic of China, the Soviet Union withdrew all the experts in aid to China and burned down the technical drawings. Without the slightest foundation, didn't we also produce two bombs and one star?" Liu Yijiu emphasized to everyone.

"You can't buy national defense if you have money. Both sides of the Iran-Iraq War should be clearly aware. Before the war, both sides declared themselves to be the world's third largest military power. Even bullets and artillery shells cannot be produced. How many years?"

The tone is not very harsh, but the words speak deeply.

"We are not afraid of foreign technology blockades and technology monopolies on us, because we are Chinese national defense science and technology workers, and our task is to make the country's national defense stronger." Liu Yijiu said in summary, "For our national defense For military science and technology workers, where there is a blockade, there will be independent innovation. One day, all of our technology will not be expected to be obtained from abroad..."

"Wow..." There was applause.

Enduring...