Super military empire

"The designed take-off weight reaches 220 tons, and the maximum load capacity exceeds 60 tons. Isn't that feasible?" Liu Yijiu gave Qiu Yue a blank glance.

If this old man sees the An-225 that the Soviet Union has produced, he doesn't know if his eyes will fall.

Of course, in front of Yun-20 with a fuselage height of 16 meters, a human being with a height of seven or eight meters is indeed too small.When I was in front of Yunshi in the past, I felt that I was too small. After all, Yunshi is more than ten meters high and the height of a four-story building. However, compared with Yunshi, the width of Yunshi is less. The length of the slender Yun-10 is not much different from that of the Yun-20, but the overall take-off mass and load capacity are too different.

Can it be too big!

"I just sighed. If this is used to drop soldiers by air, how much can it be transported at one time?" Qiu Yue first asked about the military use of this large plane, especially how it can be used to drop soldiers from a distance. How many planes are needed to deliver all the ground forces? I heard that you are planning to airdrop even the tanks. If our missile forces and armored forces use transport planes..."

Qiu Yue really didn't regard himself as an outsider. He was asking Liu Yijiu as a deputy commander.

He hasn't served in the Blues yet.

Liu Yijiu rolled his eyes at him, took a deep breath, and suppressed his anger before he said to Qiu Yue, "You really don't pay for the military, so you don't feel the pain! If it is the missile unit Airdrops are used with heavy ground armored units, let alone our three blue brigades, even if all ground forces can be airdropped, can we equip them, can the military afford it?"

Qiu Yue looked at the other people in a shame, and stopped talking.

"The design of Yun Twenty was originally designed in the direction of a comprehensive aerial platform, because our early warning aircraft, transport aircraft, aerial refueling aircraft, and even civil aviation passenger aircraft are all based on this...This is a huge plan. …" Ma Fengshan introduced to Qiu Yue. He didn’t know that Qiu Yue had retired from the top of the military and turned to join the Blue Army as deputy commander. The chief of the military didn’t know their plans, so he liked to move forward. They explain.

In the past, when he was engaged in Lucky Ten, there was no shortage of funds for scientific research. As the chief designer, there was no shortage of funds. But for now, there is no such thing as before. He didn't like to do things that have nothing to do with scientific research and development. But it is also clear that the military leaders in front of them have a great effect on their projects.

"This is very good. Even if there are not many military orders, they can be put into the civilian market. In this way, it is easy to reduce R&D costs. A very good method!" Qiu Yue applauded."Of course, it is just our military. If we have sufficient funds, the number needed is not a small amount. Although we are only implementing a defense strategy, our military does not need to be deployed on foreign battlefields from a long distance, but our country is vast. , And the main force of the current transport aircraft is the Yun-8. The transport volume is too small, and there is a great demand for transport aircraft over 100 tons or even larger. As you said, early warning aircraft, aerial tankers, and even strategic bombers, etc. Wait……"

Since it is a prototype, it is normal to use it for other functions after the modification.

Even if Qiu Yue spent less than ten years in the central government, he knew a lot about military developments.

The future development direction of the military, even if we can't see what the future situation is too far, we can still reveal some inside information.

Liu Yijiu and others did not ask him because Liu Yijiu himself knew the future development direction of the People's Liberation Army, and even knew the development of military equipment in various countries in the world, but others did not.

"If the chief is successful, how many orders the military can probably have, can you disclose it?" Ma Fengshan's question made Liu Yijiu and the others a bit surprised. When did he start to care about orders?

Immediately I was a little angry, "Mr. Ma, do we have a problem with our transportation 20 funds?"

Regarding Liu Yijiu’s question, Ma Fengshan was a little confused. He looked at Liu Yijiu and saw that his face was unsightly. He couldn't help wondering what he had done wrong, so he immediately asked him, "Director Liu, this is from Speaking of somewhere, our Yun20 project has been set up from the beginning to now, whether it is technical support or anything else, there has been no delay, and the funds are sufficient, otherwise we cannot directly install two prototypes at once. what!"

"Since there is no shortage of funds, other cooperation is also in place, why do you pay attention to these now? Technicians, the main job is to engage in technology, not to consider things that have nothing to do with technology research and development..." Liu Yijiu is serious He said, "Regardless of whether the military has an order or not, even one cannot be sold. We have to continue to study. As long as our Ninth Institute is still there, our investment in this area will not be less!"

After Liu Yijiu said these words, Ma Fengshan immediately knew where his nameless fire came from.

I couldn’t help but cried and explained to Liu Yijiu, “Director Liu, although we technicians should not consider things that have nothing to do with technology, I also know that even if there is no order, our research will not stop, unless nine The day the courtyard fell or the system of the Ninth Institute all changed. However, as a chief designer, the products designed by himself consumed a lot of money in the country, but in the end it was unable to exert any effect. What does this have to do with waste. Although we have also obtained technical reserves, technology needs to be transformed into physical objects and function to be useful..."

Ma Fengshan was very moved by Liu Yijiu's anger.

For him, as long as Liu Yijiu is still there, there will be no shortage of funds for them.

But the more this happens, the greater the pressure on them, and at the same time, the more they want to help Liu Yijiu reduce the pressure.

Unexpectedly, at this time, Liu Yijiu was actually angry about this matter.

“If it’s just shipping twenty, I won’t have any pressure without an order, but before that, we still have shipping ten. Before the Ninth Institute took over, the project had already cost nearly 600 million yuan, and the money was the same as the current money. The value is completely different. In the past few years, the Yunshi project, among the projects of the Ninth Academy, is basically a costly project. After such a long period of successful research, there is no order for a single aircraft. , Director Liu, is it still useful if we stick to it?"

Yes, if the researched high-tech products are not even purchased by the country, what use is there for further research?

Everyone was silent.

Many people even cast their eyes on Qiu Yue.

Many of these big men in the military are now looking at foreign countries, thinking that foreign moons are rounder than China, and everything abroad has better technology than China.

The European Airbus Company was established in 1970, the same year as the launch of the China Yunshi project. The a300 aircraft they developed is not much more advanced than the Yunshi, but it is because of the protective orders of several major European countries that have invested in it. As well as the sufficient funds brought by these orders, their development far exceeds that of Chinese projects.

Now with Yun20 to catch up with them, they can even surpass them in some aspects. If there is no order, the future of Yun20 can be imagined.

As more and more projects of the Ninth Academy have reached a critical period, no project can solve the problem by just tens of millions or tens of millions in the past. It is often hundreds of millions and billions, not to mention after the 20th model. The research and development of the new generation model is only the improvement of the future model of this transport aircraft, and these funds cannot be guaranteed.

No one can guarantee to continue to invest in a project that seems to have been unable to bring investment returns, and continues to require more funding.

Liu Yijiu couldn't even persist.

As the director of the entire base, all issues were taken into consideration, and he took a lot of pressure on his shoulders, but he did not take into account the concerns of the technicians.

Faced with such a statement, Liu Yijiu sighed helplessly, "Large aircraft is different from other projects. Even if a huge amount of funding is required every year, some of our other unimportant projects are abandoned. The development and improvement of large aircraft , Can’t stop. At present, the country may not need large planes, but in the future, they will definitely need them. Both the Soviet Union and the United States have very large air transportation capabilities. Otherwise, in the event of a war, our logistics supplies What can't keep up, in the end, it can only be filled with human lives as in the Korean War..."

Qiu Yue, who was on the side, couldn’t help but twitched when he heard these words. Listening to the conversation between the two, he always felt that Liu Yijiu had discussed with the technicians of the 708 Institute and the senior officials of the large aircraft factory before then. .

Obviously, I was speaking to myself in front of myself!

But even if you haven't retired, you can't control this aspect of things, right?

Major issues of the country are not something that can be done by just one person.

"I'm talking about two people, isn't it? Didn't it mean that if Yun20 is successfully developed, there will be no fewer orders? This is different from Yunshi. If Yunshi is more advanced in performance, the transportation volume will be larger, not narrow. , The military can order a batch..." Qiu Yue couldn't listen anymore.

Going on, I guess I am embarrassed to stay here.

"Besides, I can't guarantee whether the Ministry of National Defense will purchase. At least, the number of Blue Army equipment will not be small? Just for transportation, it will require a lot of quantities. There are also early warning aircraft, although the number of this thing is not large, Even if only one is in service, at least three are required. One is on duty, one is in reserve, and there must be strategic reserves or something..."

An early warning aircraft is different from other aircraft. Once three days, it basically has to stay in the sky.

Especially when monitoring a certain direction.

"You said it yourself, there are civil aviation..."

"I don't want to talk about civilian use. At present, there is no order for ten shipments until now. Other countries dislike us, and our own country dislikes..." Ma Fengshan said this is just not being angry. Come everywhere.

They all knew very well why they dismounted before Yun Ten.

Funding is one aspect, but after the dismantlement of transportation, the Civil Aviation Administration of China switched to contact and communication with McDonnell Douglas in the United States and negotiated the cooperation in the production of McDonnell Douglas aircraft in China, which made them very dissatisfied.

If the order is given to the Yunshi team, they can rely on the project's own funds to support the project's continued operation.

"This..." For a while, Qiu Yue didn't know how to answer.

He is only a high-level military officer, not a high-level country.

Since the reform and opening up, the country's military and government have been completely separated, and military intervention in politics has never happened.

"Okay, let's introduce our Yun Twenty to the chief. After all, Yun Twenty is only considered for civilian use, not military use at the beginning." Liu Yijiu didn't want to continue on this matter."The technical development of Yunshi must continue. Military use is very reluctant. After all, it was designed for civilian use at the beginning. From the beginning of the design, the main consideration for Yunshi was military use!"

"Yes, let's introduce the various situations of Yun-20. We can design and produce such a large aircraft in our country. It is a very remarkable thing. Who would have thought that our domestic technical level has reached this point? The extent!" Qiu Yue also said quickly.

He can't guarantee whether the transport of twenty will be like transport of ten.

Although the military is paying attention, and the Chinese military has a demand for larger aircraft with longer range and larger transportation volume, the military is currently considering importing from abroad rather than assigning tasks at home.

This has a lot to do with the Ninth Academy taking over Yunshi. Except for a very small number of people in the military, more people do not know that there are still large aircraft projects in China. Even the original large aircraft projects have not been shelved but have been researching. .

"No matter how advanced it is, it will be useless without an order..." Cheng from time to time also said quietly.

Is this still better?

Qiu Yue looked at Liu Yijiu, who was also looking at him, which made Qiu Yue think that Liu Yijiu was deliberate!"I said, you are better? I am not the chief of the military, but just the deputy commander of the blue army..."

Only shameless.

Keep going, it's almost endless.

In any case, it is impossible for the Yun Twenty to have the same fate as the Yun 10, because the Blue Army must be equipped with at least 20 aircraft.

In peacetime, it belongs to the management and use of the Blue Army, and when the military needs it, it still has to be mobilized for use by the military. This can be regarded as a disguised increase in the strength of some equipment by the military.Otherwise, there would not be three generals in a secret force such as the Blue Army with only three brigades. At the same time, there would be more major generals.

However, Qiu Yue couldn't say this!