Reborn multinational giant

The first to answer the host’s question was Mr. Li from Baidu:

"I noticed that what President Huai said just now is quite technical. I also noticed that our audience listened very carefully and carefully. It seems that everyone is still very interested in technical issues. I thought everyone would come. Here are just some interesting things and some jokes.

Since everyone is still interested in technical issues, let me talk a little bit.

Cloud computing is a thing, it's kind of old wine in a new bottle, nothing new.More than ten years ago, everyone talked about client and server. Later, we talked about web2.0, and talked about services based on the Internet web interface. Now we talk about cloud computing. In fact, they all talk about the same. They all put more work on the server. Customers The end here is getting simpler.

This concept is correct, but it is not easy for traditional software to rely on this. For example, Microsoft's office software, it is a bit thankless to turn it into a cloud service. Client It is impossible to have nothing.

Let’s take another example for the search engine that we do on Baidu. A lot of the work is done on the server, and it’s impossible for one or two computers to be a search engine because it requires too many data storage and calculations, and many computers must be used. To deal with it, this is very suitable for cloud computing.

So I feel that cloud computing is just changing the previous concept. There may be more cloud computing-based applications or services in the future, but the traditional IT industry may not change much for traditional software."

After Mr. Li finished speaking, Mr. Ma, who was also on the stage, took his words directly:

"Let me add a few points. This topic is more technical, and cloud computing is also considered an advanced concept.

More than ten years ago, Sun Company proposed a network computer, which is very similar to cloud computing, but no one believed this at the time, so Sun spent a lot of effort to popularize it, and finally became a martyr.

Looking at it now, this concept is still a bit advanced, like the search mentioned just now, and the mailboxes we commonly use, in fact, it was cloud processing from the beginning.

But if you want to put many comprehensive software or services on the cloud, you don't need local client processing. I think this is still a bit too early, and it may not appear until hundreds of years.

We are now doing IDC, and it is very challenging for tens of thousands of servers to do the same computing task. Therefore, there are indeed many challenges to run so many services on the cloud. It requires everyone to try and work hard, thank you!"

After the two big guys on the stage finished speaking, the host took the words and said:

"It seems that the two points of view are very consistent, that is, cloud computing is a good concept, but it will take some time for large-scale applications. I don't know what Ma Zonghefang always thinks in the audience? Let's ask Ma Zong to talk first."

When the host introduced the right to speak to Ali Ma, Fang Zhe was also thinking about the views and understandings of Baidu and Tencent on cloud computing just now, perhaps because the discussion in the previous life has been a long time. Fang Zhe didn't have much impression of the specific content in his heart. After listening to it in person, Fang Zhe felt that these two bigwigs didn't understand cloud computing at all!

The two of them talked about cloud computing, both of which belonged to the entry-level understanding of cloud computing when they first came into contact. They only thought it was putting software or services in the cloud. In fact, in the development of cloud computing in the past, more advocates are elastic computing and optimization The efficiency of social resources does not wait for Fang Zhe to think more, Ali's President Ma also began to talk about it.

Mr. Ma picked up the microphone handed over by the staff and talked freely: “It’s really a bit difficult for me to talk about technology by someone who doesn’t understand technology. Cloud computing as I understand it is a kind of data processing, storage and sharing. Mechanisms.

I was thinking about what Mr. Li just said. He said it was "old wine in new bottles." In fact, I was most afraid of this kind of old wine in new bottles. Yahoo did searches back then, and after Google was born, it also did searches. There is no difference between what I do at home, but now Google has stabilized Yahoo.

We at Alibaba are full of confidence in cloud computing. We at Alibaba have a lot of consumption data and payment transaction data. If cloud computing can help us make better use of these data, then we must do it."

Mr. Ma’s answer is very brief, because he is not a technical background, so he did not talk about cloud computing from a technical point of view, but from a business point of view, since cloud computing is proposed by a foreign e-commerce competitor, Amazon. Yes, then Ali has no reason not to follow up.

The host looked at Fang Zhe and asked, "What do you think, Mr. Fang? As far as I know, your company seems to have begun to do cloud computing. You are also a technical background. Can you tell us about it?"

Fang Zhe took the microphone from Mr. Ma next to him. Whether it was Mr. Ma next to him or Mr. Li and Mr. Ma on the stage, his eyes were focused on him at this time. According to their understanding, it seemed that the host said Among these four companies, only Alibaba and Huizhong have started cloud computing. Among them, Huizhong is the largest and most mature.

Fang Zhe sighed in his heart, the advantages of the times are crushing the light of the big brothers. At present, the Internet people in China have not even understood the mobile Internet, let alone more advanced cloud computing?

Fang Zhe smiled on his face and said, "Before I talk about cloud computing, let me talk about our Huizhong's cloud computing situation. We bought two IDC data centers abroad and transformed them into cloud computing centers. Now they have been transformed. After it has been put into use, we currently have 3 cloud computing centers around the world ready to start, including one in China.

We have a research and development team for cloud computing in the United States, and there is also a research and development team in China. Generally speaking, we research cloud computing services, but there are many differences in services for domestic and foreign environments.Huizhong’s investment in cloud computing should be the earliest in China and the largest in China."

When Fang Zhe said this, he inadvertently caught a glimpse of Mr. Li and Mr. Ma on the stage, their brows tightened slightly, Fang Zhe secretly smiled, worried?Obviously, the two big bosses heard that Huizhong has such a big lead. Regardless of whether cloud computing is worth investing in, they are a little uneasy.

Fang Zhe ignored them and continued:

"I have personally studied cloud computing for more than a year, so I think I have a fairly thorough understanding of it.

Cloud computing is literally moving many Internet services to the cloud for processing. It is no different from the network computers mentioned by the two on the stage. But in fact, from the use of Amazon abroad to Huizhong in China, it What is more advocated is a kind of flexible resource calculation. For example, if you use a traditional IDC server, the customer needs to do everything from the computer room to the broadband network to the operation and maintenance.

But with cloud computing, customers may only need to place an order online, just like buying something online. After buying, they can use this computing service directly. You can buy as much as you need. For example, you can buy more at peak business hours. Buy points, you buy less points during low peak periods. In fact, this is a very cost-effective way to use computing for customers. For service providers that provide cloud computing, this can make server resources and computing resources flexible , Make better use of these resources.

In fact, I am the earliest cloud service user personally. When I started to make indie games in 2008, think about how I would upload games to the US appstore and operate games in the US and even many countries around the world. I had to switch to a traditional rental IDC server. The method is much more complicated, but in fact I just bought a server on Amazon Cloud, and then I bought as much as I needed for expansion, and returned it when I was not using it. This is a very convenient experience for me personally. ."