Super military empire

(Greatly added for Huang Shiren@ysl 11/25)

"Do you think it should be thrilling? Is it thrilling that the fighter can't land because of a malfunction? Although it only took less than ten minutes to fly, ask these technicians, whose heart is not in the throat?" Why didn't Fei appear thrilling? Liu Yijiu was so angry that he couldn't fight.

What kind of thoughts did these guys look at?

Is it to seek excitement!

"Okay, okay, don't blow your hairs here. The first flight mission is safely and successfully completed. This is what we all want to see!" Xia Fei ignored Liu Yijiu's anger, with a smile on his face. Said, "Congratulations, everyone! Thank you for your efforts to make our air force's equipment more and more advanced!"

Among other things, just a shorter takeoff distance than the J-11 allowed Xia Fei to discover the advantages of this fighter.

Not to mention equipped with more advanced engines, more advanced avionics systems, etc...

It's not thrilling, it's just his joke.

"When the J-10 completes its test flight, let's consider which model the Air Force is equipped with when the design is finalized!" Long Yaohua's words made Liu Yijiu feel much better.

Although it has not been clearly stated whether the Air Force will be equipped with the J-11, which is an imitation of the F-14, or the first domestically designed J-10, Liu Yijiu is very at ease.

"However, the training of pilots still has to be carried out, not just the simulation cabin, I think you should first consider the trainer when producing. The current domestic trainer is too far from this, the J-7 and J-8 Obviously, the pilots trained by the trainer aircraft of China cannot fly the J-10 or J-11...

At the conclusion of the meeting, Xia Fei put forward a request for the 132 factory to provide trainers.

At present, the most advanced domestic trainer aircraft is the JJ-7, which completed its first flight last year and has not yet been designed.

"This is indeed a very serious problem. We have considered this problem before. Our current model of training test pilots cannot be promoted nationwide. Whether it is design or airborne equipment, it is similar to the current domestic equipment. The mainstream J-7 and J-8 are different..." Speaking of this, everyone in the 611 is a headache.

"Isn't the J-7-7? Although the design has not been finalized, it took the first flight last year and can complete all the training subjects of the J-7 and most of the training subjects of the J-8!" Johnson did not understand."It also has certain ground attack and air attack capabilities, which can train pilots' driving skills and aerial combat capabilities..."

Although the J-10 or J-11 are much more advanced, they should not be a big problem in general. At least they can complete some training subjects, which is much safer than flying directly on a fighter plane.

The basic operation process has not changed at all.

"No! JJ-7 is completely different from ours. We are a heavy fighter. Whether it is an avionics system or an operating system, it is somewhat biased towards the Western system rather than the Soviet system..." Liu Yijiu shook his head. "What's more, ours is still the most advanced heavy fighter. Its flight performance and combat methods are different from the J-7 and J-8."

"Isn't Hongdu Aircraft Factory researching and demonstrating new trainer aircraft?" Johnson did not expect that this thing is still so complicated.

"It's even more impossible. Not to mention that Hongdu has not started designing. Even if it has already started designing, it is useless, because they are designing a junior trainer!" Liu Yijiu understands about the Republic's trainer. Is very clear.

Hongdu Aircraft Factory is currently cooperating with Pakistan, mainly to design a new type of primary jet trainer, not the more advanced trainer model Liu Yijiu needed.

The J7-7, which trains pilots for the J-7 and J-8, will not work, let alone a junior trainer that has not yet begun to be designed.

"It really doesn't work, you can only modify the J-10 or J-11 to become a trainer. But this way, the cost is too high!" Xia Fei sighed, "Comrade Xiao Liu, give me a solid answer. If the J-11 is purchased domestically, what is the price?"

Sold to Pakistan, Iran and other countries, Liu Yijiu offered 55 million U.S. dollars per unit, which is close to 300 million yuan in RMB!

Where can the air force be equipped!

Not to mention the more frequent use of trainers.

"We don't want profits, and it shouldn't be less than 150 million..." Liu Yijiu did not make a random offer.

"You are robbing money!" Xia Fei couldn't complain about the price.

How much does the Air Force cost for a year?

A fake F-14 can be worth nearly ten F-7 or F-8!

"This is how advanced fighters are..." Liu Yijiu didn't explain too much.

"Otherwise, these fighters have to be exported anyway, so we should develop one with Hongdu? Let's put aside the junior trainer project?" Without a trainer, this is also a very troublesome thing.

It is impossible for the Air Force to directly use fighter jets to modify training aircraft like the Ninth Academy.

The cost is too high.

The mission of a trainer aircraft is different from that of a fighter aircraft. The main task is to train pilots' flight skills and air combat capabilities at a lower cost.

If you use a fighter jet, you can directly use the simulation cabin to train like the Ninth Academy, and then you can directly operate on the fighter plane. This mode is very dangerous, not to mention the high cost. Once a heavy fighter plane is in the sky, the hourly flight cost is Pilots who counted 10,000 dollars and have received less training time are very likely to cause the fighter to fall directly...

It's strange that the Air Force must not go bankrupt after a few crashes.

"Now that we are developing, we can't keep up with it..." Liu Yijiu shook his head and said, "It's really not good. I can only produce some double-seaters..."

"The cost is too high..." The lack of funding for the Air Force is a big problem.

There is very little time for flight training, let alone training.

"Bringing the old to the new. When our flight test brigade is training, we can let the air force pilots follow the training, and at the same time, make the simulated flight cabin more perfect..." Liu Yijiu had no choice.

Iran has a mature f-14 flight training program and even has a dedicated trainer aircraft.

So they did not mention it at all when purchasing.

Pakistan's relationship with Iran has reached its current level, and it is very likely that Pakistani pilots have already been trained in Iran.As for Argentina, it is estimated that Iran will also help solve the problem.

In the end, there is only China.

Although the J-11 can also adopt a two-seater model like the f-14, from the beginning to the present, China has always adopted a single-seater...

This can make the aerodynamic layout of the fighter more perfect.

"In the beginning, it could only be this way. But we still hope that your fighters will simply adopt the two-seater layout..." Xia Fei sighed helplessly, what is this all about!

"Using a two-seater layout, not to mention affecting the aerodynamic layout, is obviously not enough to allow two pilots to achieve the flexibility of one person when flying at high speed in the air..." Liu Yijiu also has his own helplessness.

In a two-seater aircraft, one pilot generally controls the flight attitude of the fighter aircraft, and the other pilot controls the weapon system, which will affect the combat capability of the aircraft.

Even advanced fighters such as the f-22 have a single-seater layout instead of two-seater!

The Su-27 is also a single-seater layout.

"Dr. Liu is right. After more than ten years of demonstration, none of the two pilots of the two-seater fighter was more flexible during flight training..." Simon Love also began to support Liu Yijiu. "Operation by two people will expose more flaws to the enemy, making it easier for the fighter to be shot down!"

"So, the two-seater can only be used as a trainer?" Xia Fei asked in pain.

"Do we have a better solution?" Liu Yijiu shrugged.

"If this is the case, how much can our Air Force equip?"

"That's your Air Force business. What we are thinking about is only designing and producing the most advanced weapons and equipment..." Liu Yijiu said happily.

"Let’s contact Hongdu and Base 011..." Long Yaohua was very dissatisfied with Liu Yijiu’s attitude. "Comrade Liu, we have to consider all aspects of our work! This is obviously because you don’t have this attitude. Thoughtful questions..."

When Long Yaohua said this, he kept winking at Liu Yijiu and told him not to continue speaking.

Although Liu Yijiu didn't understand what he meant, he could only hold back angrily, anyway, Long Yaohua never harmed him.

"In the early stage, let's use the old method with the new. Don't the test flight team have more than a dozen pilots? Isn't there two more f-14s? With the simulation cabin, let the pilots get familiar with it, and then fly for dozens of hours in the sky. , The problem shouldn't be big...Then the Air Force will issue the task of developing a supporting trainer..."

Long Yaohua's proposal is a synthesis of the opinions of both parties.

The Air Force is equipped with one of these two fighters. No matter which type, there is no trainer that can complete all training, and even the operating system is not the same in China.

Future fighters will obviously develop on the basis of these two models, and it is inevitable to study new trainers.

It is impossible to refuse to equip advanced new fighters because of the high cost.

"I agree with President Long's opinion." Johnson felt that Long Yaohua's proposal was very good.

I took care of the Air Force and the Ninth Academy.

The task of 611 Institute is already heavy, and it will definitely not spend energy to study the trainer.

Other units have fewer tasks, which is the best.

Faced with such a proposal, Liu Yijiu and Xia Fei had no opinion.