Super military empire

Chapter 990 The trainer's part-time light fighter is nonsense

(Greatly added for Huang Shiren@ysl 12/25)

(At 1:55 on May 10, 2016, Comrade Shi Ping, the chief designer of the k-8 and jl8 trainer aircraft, who had set three firsts in the aviation industry of the Republic, died in Nanchang. The aviation system of the Republic of Take! Brothers who are interested can check the information of Mr. Shiping.)

Under the leadership of Long Yaohua and Xia Fei, the technical team of Hongdu Aircraft Factory, which had a strong cooperation with the Ninth Academy in helicopter manufacturing, arrived in Chengdu that night. They hoped to win this project, but they had to follow Ninth institutes cooperate.

"Director Liu, this is the chief designer of our new trainer aircraft project, Shiping..." Hongdu Aircraft Factory, the one who has the most contact with the Ninth Academy is not the director, but the chief engineer Lu Xiaopeng. This time it is still Lu Xiaopeng. Lead the team and introduce Shiping directly as soon as they meet.

Liu Yijiu looked at the man in front of him with glasses, no different from other researchers in the Republic. He was a thin young old man, and he felt very moved.

This is the chief designer of the k-8, the first time in the history of the Republic Aviation Industry to export the entire aircraft production line and design technology to foreign countries. The aviation industry exports the largest number and largest amount of money (export to Egypt) trainer aircraft. At the same time, he was also the chief designer of the most advanced JJ-8 in the first decade of the 21st century.

This is the first batch of local talents cultivated by New China.

"President Shi, I have heard of your name a long time ago!" Liu Yijiu respected this old national defense science and technology worker who had made great achievements in the training aircraft industry of the Republic.

Shiping did not expect that Liu Yijiu would be very familiar with his name, "Director Liu, like a thunder! I finally met today!"

Liu Yijiu smiled bitterly, "It's notorious! You know, we were planning to dig you over at the beginning! It's just that we don't engage in trainers, and Hongdu is our old partner again. See..."

At this point, everyone laughed.

Liu Yijiu's fame is not because he is great in the technical field, but because all the units hate him for poaching people.

"Okay, Director Liu, you should be very clear about our intentions. We are currently cooperating with Pakistan to develop a junior jet trainer, but Pakistan only provides 25% of the funding..." Lu Xiaopeng knew Liu Yi Jiu didn't like to go around the corner, and directly expressed his intention."Now that the Ninth Academy has developed a more advanced fighter jet, we hope to be able to take the mission of a trainer..."

"Didn't you already have two projects in your hands? The tasks of the junior trainer and the JJ-8 are yours?" Liu Yijiu did not directly agree, but asked the two.

It is estimated that the J-8 mission has just started. This is mainly for pilot training of the J-8 series fighters.

"The JJ-8 mission can be said to be repeated construction. The JJ-7 can complete a large part of the J-8 pilot training tasks. We hope to be able to study more advanced trainers!" As a senior in Hongdu, Lu Xiaopeng, There are ideas, that's for sure.

Although the performance of JJ-8 is good, it can be completed by improving JJ-7.

When there were no projects at the beginning, Hongdu would have less research funding if they didn't start projects.

Everyone is tacitly aware of such things.

"The trainer we need is very different from what you are currently studying!" Liu Yijiu is naturally clear that his opinion is more important to the above.

In other words, the opinions of the Ninth Court are more important and more appropriate.

"We know, and we will discuss with the 011 base, give them the task of JJ-8, and let them improve and improve the performance of J7-7, so that they can meet the current demand. We are studying supersonic jet trainers. "Before Shiping came, he knew Liu Yijiu's personality from Lu Xiaopeng's mouth, and did not hide him, hoping to study more advanced trainers.

l15!

Liu Yijiu suddenly thought that the L-15, the first third-generation fighter trainer in the Republic, was also designed from Hongdu Aircraft Factory. The overall design is not the one in front of him, but it is not important.

Perhaps Hongdu had already started this work in the 1980s?

"Our current training aircraft required by these fighters is a new generation of advanced jet trainers with more advanced performance, more complex technology, higher quality requirements, and reaching the advanced level of similar international aircraft. Moreover, the Air Force also requires that the first The use characteristics and training requirements of the third-generation advanced fighter jets have good reliability, maintainability and comprehensive support..." The most advanced domestic trainer technology is Hongdu.

Moreover, once researched out, the Republic's advanced trainer aircraft will also receive a lot of orders for export.

Because the trainer of the third-generation fighter is very different from other old fighters.

"It is because we know these requirements that we hope to receive technical assistance from the Ninth Academy..." Lu Xiaopeng looked at Liu Yijiu's expression and said to him expectantly.

If you can get this project, it will be very promising for the entire Hongdu.

Most of the powers in the world are beginning to equip a new generation of fighter jets, but there are not many units that specialize in trainer aircraft.

The Soviet Union and the Western world market China does not expect, but the third world, if they want to equip them, then China's advanced trainers have a greater opportunity to export.

At the same time, the Air Force will definitely equip more advanced fighters in the future, and the demand for a new generation of supersonic advanced trainers is also very large.

"There is no problem with technical assistance, but if you want to win this project, you have to find the Air Force and the National Defense Science and Technology Commission, and you have to negotiate with the 011 base." Liu Yijiu's words are very clear. Will help them get the project.

After all, whether this project can match the fighters developed by the Ninth Academy in the future will have to be nodded.

Even Liu Yijiu thought that Hong hopes to keep up with them and achieve greater performance.

He agrees with this very much. Now they are facing a very embarrassing situation. They have developed new high-performance fighters, but because they do not have advanced trainers, they have to use higher-cost fighters to train pilots.

"This is natural, as long as we can provide technical support. From the very beginning when you researched the f-14, we had this idea..." Lu Xiaopeng smiled and said to Liu Yijiu, and then asked Shiping to They gave Liu Yijiu the plan they had worked out long ago.

Liu Yijiu took it over and saw that it didn't seem to be much different from the performance of the l-15 Falcon. No wonder they wanted to get technical support from the Ninth Academy.

"I think if it is positioned on an advanced trainer/light fighter, I think that with the current technical strength, even with our technical assistance, you will not be able to study it in a short time... Supersonic speed, this is needed As for the performance of the fighter, I personally think it is unnecessary. This is a trainer for training pilots, not a fighter for combat..." Faced with Hongdu’s plan, Liu Yijiu couldn't help thinking of the criticism on the Internet.

Part-time trainer fighter jets, even at supersonic speeds, are just a gimmick, and it will seriously slow down the development progress.

"If you follow your positioning, not only trainers, but also combat capabilities, can such a light fighter jet fight in the air with third-generation fighters? In addition, according to this positioning, let’s not talk about performance. Not to mention the research progress, just the price. From the current cost of sales, we need an advanced avionics system and two turbofan engines. How much does this cost? If you sell it, you have to make a profit. Can 30 million dollars do it? How much is a J-7 and J-8?"

Liu Yijiu's remarks really came from the heart.

The biggest selling point of the Falcon’s hype is the trainer’s part-time light fighter. In fact, this thing simply won’t work unless it is equipped with a more advanced avionics system, in which case the cost will be high.

A pulse Doppler radar plus an avionics system costs tens of millions of dollars!

The eight turbofan engines cost two to three million dollars each...

Liu Yijiu worked out these costs item by item.

Shiping was thoughtful, while Lu Xiaopeng looked sad.

"Director Liu, is there really no prospect for our project?"

"It's not that there is no prospect, but that your positioning has no prospects. If you abandon the positioning of light fighters, if you only target advanced trainers, it will not only have prospects, but it will also be very big. During this time we are talking to some customers Talking about the J-11 contract, the initial intention is that there should be an order for at least 300 aircraft. If we have a cost-effective advanced trainer, the order will definitely not be less..."

Liu Yijiu really didn’t figure it out. When Hongdu was engaged in the K-8 project, he put forward the development idea of ​​"improving training efficiency and reducing training costs", basic performance requirements and two training systems adapted to the needs of different countries. Under the widely recognized guiding ideology, how can such a project still appear at this time?

Even the question of presence or absence has not been resolved yet.

Moreover, in the current international environment, these trainers should be positioned as relatively wealthy countries in the third world, not the Soviet Union and Western countries...

"Only by coming up with a plan faster can we get orders when our potential customers seek other purchase channels. After the most basic model is finalized, the performance improvement is the right path." Liu Yi Nine saw that both of them showed a pensive expression, only to feel that his words were not in vain.

Perhaps, let the L-15 Falcon appear early, the Republic's J-11 can sell more?

Africa and South America have many potential customers. After the Soviet Union collapses, there will be more customers!

The people in Hongdu left, came with expectations, and did not leave with disappointment.

Because Liu Yijiu showed them a very bright path.

On the second day of National Day, Liu Yijiu was dragged into the negotiation again, because the Argentines arrived the night before the National Day, and Liu Yijiu had to admire their efficiency.